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The Meaning Behind Porsche Brake Caliper Colors

January 12, 2023 by porsche 1 Comment

If you’re like us and scroll through the Porsche.com website, you have likely come across models that have different Porsche brake caliper colors. At first, we weren’t sure what the difference was between black, red, green, white, or yellow. However, after a bit of research, we have been able to identify the differences between them all and that is what we plan on sharing in this article. Therefore, when you see a Porsche on the street, you can easily identify which trim of Porsche it is! So, let’s get into it.

Something to mention is that Porsche has always placed importance on brake development. They have been pioneers when it comes to high-performance brakes and have even color-coded their brake tier system. The list below explains this system from the “worst” brake package to the best brake package:

  • Black
  • Red
  • Lime Green*
  • White
  • Yellow

The reason we have worst in quotations above is simply that none of the packages are bad, the ones below black are just better from a mechanical standpoint. Also, we will cover why the lime green has an asterisk on it below. For vehicles below, we are just going to be referencing Porsche’s current 2023 lineup. Before jumping into it, we know that many Porsche owners like to match their caliper colors with the interior or exterior color of their Porsche. In those instances, the “color-code” below would not be reliable.

Black – Porsche Brake Caliper Color

When it comes to black brake calipers on a Porsche, this mainly signifies Porsche’s standard brake package, ie on most base, T, and 4 trim Porsche’s. Vehicles that black brake calipers are found on:

  • 718 Cayman
  • 718 Boxster
  • 718 Cayman T
  • 718 Boxster T
  • 911 Carrera
  • 911 Carrera T
  • 911 Carrera 4
  • 911 Targa 4
  • Taycan
  • Panamera
  • Panamera 4
  • Macan
  • Macan T
  • Cayenne
  • Cayenne Coupe

Red – Porsche Brake Caliper Color

When it comes to red brake calipers on a Porsche, this is Porsche’s first upgraded brake package that is typically found on the S, GTS, 4S, and some Turbo trims. This brake upgrade comes equipped with larger rotors and more powerful calipers. Vehicles that red brake calipers are found on:

  • 718 Cayman S
  • 718 Boxster S
  • 718 Cayman GTS 4.0
  • 718 Boxster GTS 4.0
  • 911 Carrera S
  • 911 Targa 4S
  • 911 Carrera GTS
  • 911 Carrera 4 GTS
  • 911 Targa 4 GTS
  • 911 Turbo
  • 911 GT3
  • Taycan 4S
  • Taycan GTS
  • Panamera 4S
  • Panamera GTS
  • Macan S
  • Macan GTS
  • Cayenne GTS

Lime Green

When it comes to lime green, or referred to as Acid Green, brake calipers on a Porsche, this mainly signifies brakes found on Hybrid vehicles. Lime green brakes also indicate a Porsche has regenerative braking, aside from the all-electric Taycan’s. Vehicles that lime green brake calipers are found on:

  • Panamera 4 E-Hybrid
  • Panamera 4S Hybrid
  • Panamera Turbo S Hybrid
  • Cayenne E-Hybrid

White

White brake calipers, also known as Porsche Surface Coated Brakes (PSCB) were a new Porsche offering as of 2019. Although not as flashy as the above colors, white brake calipers still offer superior braking. Something that is unique about the white-coated calipers is that they reduce curbing wear and brake dust. In fact, Porsche claims that the rotors used on this setup are 10% harder, last 30% longer, and produce 90% less brake dust. PSCB’s can be an upgrade for any Porsche model that will run up the cost by $3,000+ depending on the model. Vehicles that white brake calipers are found on:

  • Taycan GTS
  • Taycan Turbo
  • Cayenne S
  • Cayenne Turbo
  • Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid

Yellow

Last, but certainly not least, the yellow brakes, also known as Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB), are the highest-performance brake package Porsche has to offer. They are made with ceramic and carbon fiber, therefore they are much stronger and sustain higher temperatures created by friction. Also, they are 50% lighter than the other packages, which is ideal for racing Porsche’s. Like the PSCB’s, this brake package can be an upgrade coming in at a cost of $8,000+ depending on the model. Vehicles that yellow brake calipers are found on from the factory:

  • 911 Carrera 4S
  • 911 Turbo S
  • 911 GT3 RS
  • Taycan Turbo S
  • Panamera Turbo S
  • Cayenne Turbo GT

Porsche Brake Caliper Color Conclusion

We want to reiterate that the information above is specifically talking about factory Porsche brake caliper colors. It also can be difficult to distinguish between trims given the PSCB and PCCB brake packages can be purchased as an upgrade. We hope the information above helps you differentiate between Porsche trims moving forward. If you are interested in more Porsche content, here is an article covering if Porsche will be releasing a 7 seater Porsche.

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Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7

December 12, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

We’ve written some Porsche vs Audi comparisons, like the Porsche Macan vs Audi Q5, and in this article, we are going to continue with the Porsche vs Audi topic. In this article, we will be covering the differences and similarities between the Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7. Topics that will be covered include price, size, performance, reliability, and more in-depth below. The Porsche Panamera is classified as a full-size luxury car, while the Audi A7 is classified as a luxury coupe.

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 – The Basics

The Porsche Panamera was first introduced in 2009 and is still in production today. Since its introduction, there have been two generations: the 970 and 971. The 970 Panamera was built on the Porsche G1 platform, while the 971 Panamera is built on the Volkswagen Group’s MSB platform. The Panamera offers many different body styles: the Base, the Executive, and the Sport Turismo. Like body styles, there are also many trims offered: Base, 4, 4S, 4 E-Hybrid, 4S E-Hybrid, GTS, Turbo S, and a Turbo S E-Hybrid. The Panamera is seen to be a larger sedan version of the 911 for those consumers that need more cargo and passenger volume.

The Audi A7 was first introduced in 2010 and is still in production today. Since its introduction, there have been two A7 generations: the 4G8 (2010-2018) and the 4K8 (2019-Present). The 4G8 A7 was built on the Volkswagen Group’s MLB platform, while the 4K8 A7 is built on the Volkswagen Group’s MLB Evo platform. The A7 is the base model and it has two other sports variants: the S7 and RS7. There are 2 body types: a 4-door sedan and a 5-door liftback.

Panamera Generations

  • 970 Generation (2009-2016)
  • 971 Generation (2016-Present)

Audi A7 Generations

  • 4G8 A7 (2010-2018)
  • 4K8 A7 (2019-Present)

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 Price

It should come as no surprise that the Porsche Panamera is more expensive, but we’ll go into just how much more expensive the Porsche is versus the Audi.

New Porsche Panamera Price

We won’t go into ALL of the trims and body style combination prices, because there are 24 different combinations. However, we will touch on all of the base models and trims. Therefore, the base Panamera sedan starts at $92,400, the 4 sedan starts at $97,000, the 4S sedan start at $110,900, the 4 E-Hybrid starts at $109,000, the 4S E-Hybrid starts at $119,200, the GTS sedan starts at $135,200, the Turbo S sedan starts at $186,400, and FINALLY, the Turbo S E-Hybrid starts at $196,400.

Now, we’ll cover the Sport Turismo. The 4 Sport Turismo starts at $103,200, the 4S Sport Turismo starts at $117,100, the 4S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo starts at $123,200, the GTS Sport Turismo starts at $141,400, the Turbo S Sport Turismo starts at $190,400 and, last but not least, the Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo Panamera starts at $200,400. New prices on the Porsche Panamera range from $92,400-$206,800.

New Audi A7 Price

There are a lot fewer combinations to choose from for the A7, so it will be much quicker here. For the 2023 model year, there are three different trims to choose from: Premium, Premium Plus, and Prestige. A Premium A7 starts at $70,200, a Premium Plus A7 starts at $75,350, and lastly, a Prestige A7 starts at $79,350. Since we included the sports variants for the Panamera, we thought it would be fair to include the A7’s sports variants.

The base S7 starts at $83,500, while the Prestige starts at $91,500. Lastly, the highest-performance A7, the RS7, starts at $123,900. Therefore, new prices on the Audi A7, sport variants included, range from $70,200-$123,900.

If you are curious about the trim differences with Audi’s, here is an article we wrote about the different Audi trims.

Used Porsche Panamera & Audi A7 Prices

For used Panameras vs A7s, both were introduced around the same time, so we will be taking 2010-2022 model years. A used Panamera’s price ranges from $15,999 – $199,999* with an average price overall of $107,999, depending on model year and mileage. A used A7’s price ranges from $11,795 – $74,995* with an average price overall of $43,395, depending on model year and mileage.

*At the time of writing this article, we believe we are in a market where used vehicles are inflated, so consider that when seeing the used prices above. 

General Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 Topics

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 Size

Below are some basic details about the size and weight differences seen between the 2023 Porsche Panamera and the 2023 Audi A7.

Both of these vehicles have sporty exteriors, and they are pretty similar when it comes to exterior dimensions. However, the biggest difference between the two is cargo space. The Panamera’s second-row seats fold down allowing for more cargo space, 22 more inches to be exact.

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 Performance

For consistencies sake, we will be using the 2023 Porsche Panamera and 2023 Audi A7 factory performance specs.

Engines, Drivetrain, & Fuel Economy

Porsche Panamera Performance

The Porsche Panamera offers two different engines: a 2.9L Twin-Turbo V6 and a 4.0L V8 Twin-Turbo. There are two versions of the 2.9L TT. The untuned 2.9L TT is for the base Panamera models ($92,400), and it puts down 325hp and 331 lb-ft of torque. However, for the 4S Panamera ($110,990), the 2.9L TT is tuned for more performance and puts down 443hp and 405 lb-ft of torque. The 4.0L V8 TT is found in the GTS and Turbo S’. Like the 2.9L, there are two versions. The first version, found in the GTS, puts down 473hp and 457 lb-ft of torque. The tuned version, found in the Turbo S, puts down 620hp and 604 lb-ft of torque.

There are also many different E-Hybrid engines offered. They use a variation of the 2.9L V6 TT and 4.0L V8 TT with an E-Machine electric motor. Power ranges from 325hp to 690hp and 331lb-ft to 641lb-ft of torque.

Audi A7 Performance

The 2023 model year, as of now, only offers one engine: the 55 TFSI. The 55 TFSI is a turbocharged 3.0L V6 that puts down 335hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. The S7 comes equipped with a turbocharged 2.9L V6 that puts down 444hp and 442lb-ft of torque. Lastly, the RS7 comes equipped with a massive turbocharged 4.0L V8 that puts down 591hp and 590lb-ft of torque. All three models come equipped with Audi’s Quattro AWD technology.

Porsche Panamera & Audi A7 Reliability and Common Problems

Porsche Panamera

Is the Porsche Panamera reliable? Unfortunately, the Panamera’s reliability is very poor. On RepairPal, the Panamera’s reliability is rated .5 out of 5, which is below the 2.5 average reliability rating for all other luxury fullsize cars. Based off of this rating, it puts the Panamera dead last for reliability in the luxury fullsize car category (30th out of 30). The average annual ownership cost of a Porsche Panamera is $1,252, which is above the average by $276.

Common problems seen in Panamera’s include high oil consumption, faulty cam adjuster bolts, engine overheating, PCM issues, engine misfires, and coolant leaks. Since the Panamera is so expensive, we wouldn’t think many are daily drivers. However, we have seen some models last up to 200,000 miles.

Audi A7

Is the Audi A7 reliable? Also, unfortunately, the Audi A7’s reliability is below average. On RepairPal, the A7’s reliability rating is 2 out of 5, which is below the 2.5 average reliability rating for all other luxury fullsize cars. Although this puts the Audi A7 ahead of the Panamera, it still ranks 27th out of 30 in the same category. The 2017 model year Audi A7 is rated the highest when it comes to reliability. The average annual ownership cost of an Audi A7 is $1,251, which is $1 less expensive than the Panamera.

Common problems seen in A7’s include premature timing chain failure, defective airbags, electrical bugs, defective start-stop system, common fuel leaks, steering issues, and unexpected coolant loss. If maintained properly, Audi A7’s can easily last up to 150,000 to 200,000 miles.

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 – Which is Better?

So, which is better the Panamera or the A7? We feel this is a rather subjective question because we know consumers have different wants and needs. However, what we can do is provide facts for both vehicles to help others in making their purchasing decision. The Porsche Panamera may be viewed as more high status, but a price comes with that. The Panamera can be far more expensive, but allows for my customization. It can be more powerful and has more cargo space for those that need it. The Audi A7 is cheaper, more reliable, gets better gas mileage, and tends to be cheaper to maintain. Both are great vehicles that have 5-star safety ratings, have similar tech and safety features, have very sporty exteriors, and modern interiors.

If you happen to be on the fence between the two models, schedule a test drive with your local Audi and Porsche dealer. This is going to be the best research you can get.

Porsche Panamera vs Audi A7 Conclusion

To conclude this article, we know purchasing a luxury vehicle like the two listed above can be a scary undertaking. However, we hope the information above assists any consumer in choosing between the Porsche Panamera and the Audi A7. In short, the Panamera is more expensive but allows for more customization. While the Audi A7 is cheaper and tends to be more reliable. If you are someone that has had first-hand experience with either vehicle, please let us know your experience in the comments below. This review will help future readers in their purchasing decisions.

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Porsche Taycan vs Panamera: Performance, Reliability, Driving

November 27, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

We’ve done many Porsche comparison posts, such as the Porsche Macan vs Cayenne, but haven’t addressed the all-electric, very popular, Taycan, until now. In this article, we will be answering a commonly searched question: “What is the difference between the Porsche Taycan vs Panamera?” We will be covering topics such as size, price, performance, reliability, and more. These two vehicles have many differences and few similarities that we’ll be tackling in this short article.

Porsche Taycan vs Panamera – The Basics

The much anticipated Porsche Taycan was first revealed in 2015 at the Frankfurt Motor Show and was coined “Mission E” by Porsche. A few years later, in 2020, the J1 (first-generation) Taycan was produced and sold to the public. It marked Porsche’s first mass-production electric car and made up 7.4% of Porshce’s sales volume in its debut year. There are a few body styles to choose from on the Taycan: a Sedan, Cross Turismo, and Sport Turismo. There are also many trims to choose from on the Taycan including the Base, 4, 4S, GTS, Turbo, and Turbo S. With its success, we can only assume that Porsche is going to continue to produce more and more all-electric vehicles.

The Porsche Panamera was first introduced in 2009, a decade before the Taycan, and is still in production today. Since its inception, there have been two generations: the 970 and 971. Like the Taycan, the Panamera also has a few different body styles: Base, Executive, and a Sport Turismo. There are also many trims offered including the Base, 4, 4S, 4 E-Hybrid, 4S E-Hybrid, GTS, Turbo S, and a Turbo S E-Hybrid. Although there aren’t many of these sold, it’s coined as a larger sedan for those consumers needing more space than a 911.

Taycan Generations

  • J1 Taycan (2019-Present)

Panamera Generations

  • 970 Panamera (2009-2016)
  • 971 Panamera (2016-Present)

Porsche Taycan vs Panamera Price

In this portion, we will be going over the brand new 2023 Taycan and Panamera prices, as well as used prices for both models.

New Porsche Taycan Prices

Like we stated above, there are many different body styles and trims to choose from, so bare with us on this section. Therefore we will focus first on the Sedan body: the base sedan starts at $86,700, the 4S sedan starts at $106,500, the GTS sedan starts at $134,100, the Turbo sedan starts at $153,300, and the Turbo S sedan starts at $187,400. Next is the Sport Turismo body, which is the GTS Sport Turismo and it starts at $136,000. Lastly, the Cross Turismo: the 4 Cross Turismo starts at $97,700, the 4S Cross Turismo starts at $113,000, the Turbo Cross Turismo starts at $155,900, and the Turbo S Cross Turismo starts at $190,000. So, new prices on the Porsche Taycan can range anywhere from $86,700-$190,000 and offers 10 different trims/body styles!

We’ll give a quick rundown on the differences between body styles. The sedan is a normal 4 door sedan that is 195.4 inches long with 14.3 ft³ in trunk capacity. The Cross Turismo has an enlarged rear luggage compartment and has more passenger space. It is 195.8 inches long with 15.8 ft³ in trunk capacity without the seats folded down and 42.8 ft³ with the seats folded. Lastly, the Sport Turismo is the same as the Cross Turismo but with added Sport aesthetics on the exterior.

New Porsche Panamera Prices

Like the section above, there are many body styles and trims to choose from, so here we go. Let’s focus on the sedan body first: the base sedan starts at $92,400, the Platinum Edition starts at $105,100, the 4 sedan starts at $97,000, the 4 Plat Edition starts at $109,300, the 4S sedan start at $110,900, the 4 E-Hybrid starts at $109,000, the 4 E-Hybrid Plat Edition starts at $118,800, the 4S E-Hybrid starts at $119,200, the GTS sedan starts at $135,200, the Turbo S sedan starts at $186,400, and FINALLY, the Turbo S E-Hybrid starts at $196,400. Next is the Executive: the 4 Executive starts at $103,700, the 4S Exec starts at $122,200, 4 E-Hybrid starts at $113,500, the 4S E-Hybrid starts at $130,500, the Turbo S Exec starts at $196,800, and the Turbo S E-Hybrid starts at $206,800.

Lastly, we’ll cover the Sport Turismo body: the 4 Sport Turismo starts at $103,200, the 4S Sport Turismo starts at $117,100, the 4 E-Hybrid starts at $113,000, the 4S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo starts at $123,200, the GTS Sport Turismo starts at $141,400, the Turbo S starts at $190,400 and FINALLY the Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo Panamera starts at $200,400. So, new prices on the Porsche Panamera can range anywhere from $92,400-$206,800 and offers 24 different body/trim variations.

Used Porsche Taycan & Panamera Prices

In this section, we will be covering used Taycan and Panamera prices. Since the Panamera has been around for nearly a decade longer than the Taycan, we will use similar model years (2020-2022) for consistencies sake. A used Taycan’s price ranges from $86,850 – $197,998* with an average price overall of $142,424 depending on model year and mileage. A used Panamera’s price ranges from $64,995 – $202,998* with an average price overall of $133,996, depending on model year and mileage.

Therefore, both on the new and used side, the Taycan and Panamera are very similar when it comes to price.

General Porsche Taycan & Panamera Topics

Porsche Taycan vs Panamera Performance

For consistencies sake, we will be using the 2023 Taycan and Panamera factory performance specs. Now, the fun part, performance, so let’s jump into it.

Engines & Drivetrain

Porsche Taycan Performance

The Porsche Taycan is a fully electric vehicle and performance can vary heavily depending on which trim you end up with. The numbers mentioned below are with Overboost Power with Launch Control. The base Taycan has a maximum horsepower of 402 and maximum torque of 254 lb-ft with a maximum mileage range of 282 miles on the Performance Battery Plus. While the Turbo S Cross Turismo has a maximum horsepower of 750 and maximum torque of 774 lb-ft with a maximum mileage range of 222 miles. This most powerful Taycan boasts an impressive 0-60 time of 2.7 seconds with launch control.

Porsche Panamera Performance

The Porsche Panamera has two different engine options: a 2.9L Twin-Turbo V6 and a 4.0L V8 Twin-Turbo engine. The 2.9L V6 Twin-Turbo engine puts down 325hp and 331 lb-ft of torque on all base and 4 models, but is tuned for more performance on the 4S (443hp). The E-Hybrids also use 2.9L TT V6, but with an E-Machine and puts down 455hp and 516 lb-ft of torque in base and 4 models. Like the 2.9L TT above, it is tuned for more performance in the 4S E-Hybrids (552hp). Once you start going up to the GTS model, that’s when real power starts to appear.

The 4.0 V8 Twin-Turbo makes an appearance after the 4S’. In the GTS, the 4.0 TT V8 engine puts down 473hp and 457lb-ft of torque. Then jumps up to 620hp in the Turbo S models and a whopping 690hp in the 4.0 TT V8 E-Hybrid.

Taycan vs Panamera Reliability and Common Problems

Porsche Taycan

Since the Porsche Taycan is a little newer, it’s a little difficult to gauge reliability. However, after scouring the internet for a while, we have decided that the Porsche Taycan’s reliability is average. Here’s an article describing that electric vehicles tend to be less reliable than their gas-powered counterparts. Something we have to remember is that all-electric cars really haven’t been around for a very long time. Therefore, there are going to be faults and bugs, it’s just the nature of newer technology. However, something that is promising is that the Taycan scored a 4 out of 5 in customer satisfaction.

Porsche Panamera

Now, is the Porsche Panamera reliable? To our surprise, the Panamera’s reliability is very poor. According to RepairPal, it has the reliability rated .5 out of 5, which is well below the average luxury fullsize car of 2.5. In fact, this rating puts the Panamera dead last in all luxury fullsize cars (30th out of 30). The average annual maintenance cost for a Porsche Panamera is $1,252, which is above the average by $276.

Common problems seen in Panamera’s include engine overheating, high oil consumption, PCM issues, faulty cam adjuster bolts, coolant leaks, and engine misfires. Given the Panamera is so expensive, there aren’t very many out there that are or should be daily driven. Therefore it’s a little difficult to tell, from a longevity standpoint, how long they can last. However, we have seen some last up to 200,000 miles, which surprised us.

Porsche Taycan vs Panamera – Which is Better?

Typically we feel that the “which is better” question is rather subjective because many consumers have different needs and wants. But, in our minds, we give it to the Panamera because it has a gas engine option. However, for those that are wanting an electric vehicle, the Taycan is a great alternative. We love a good-sounding twin-turbo engine when we hear one and if we would front six digits, we would want a turbo engine. But, we also know that the Taycan does have pretty big tax benefits given it is an all-electric and it can weigh over 6,000 pounds (Section 179). So, again, when it comes to which is better. It all comes down to consumer needs and wants.

Porsche Taycan vs Panamera Conclusion

To wrap up this article, we know making a vehicle purchase can be a daunting task, especially an expensive luxury vehicle like the Taycan or Panamera. So, we hope the information provided above assists in the purchasing decision. In short, the Taycan is all-electric, faster, and can have some tax benefits, while the Panamera is gas, larger, and has 24 different variations to choose from. Both have exceptional safety and tech features, allow for a lot of customization, and are equally priced. If you happen to be reading this and have first-hand experience with either vehicle, please let us know your experience in the comments below. This will help us with our research and future readers.

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Is There a 7 Seater Porsche?

November 10, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

With the market shift from passenger cars to Crossover Utility Vehicles (CUV) and Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV) starting in the early 2000’s, Porsche had to act fast, which they did. The Porsche Cayenne was quickly introduced in 2002 and is still in production today. Then the Macan, which is Cayenne’s smaller “sibling”, was introduced 12 years later in 2014. Both were, and still are, a hit for Porsche enthusiasts that wanted a bigger vehicle to support their lifestyle. However, both of these are only two-row SUV’s. This leads many to ask if Porsche has or plans to have a 3rd row, or 7 seater, Porsche SUV.

Does Porsche Have a 3rd Row SUV?

Short answer, no. Not yet that is. However, there have been rumors of a 7 seater Porsche being developed. Codenamed “Landjet” or “K1”, this rumored 3rd row Porsche SUV is expected to be produced for the 2026 model year. Again, this is a rumor, but there is some big evidence supporting this. Porsche’s CEO, Oliver Blume, in July of this year said they are working on two electric SUVs on top of the 2023 Macan EV that was already announced. Therefore, some must think that one of these is going to be a 3rd row SUV.

New Sales Opportunities? – 7 Seater Porsche

On top of the CEO announcing two additional SUV’s, he carried on to say they plan on adding a new luxury electric SUV to the already attractive suite of SUVs. Let’s dive into this a little more. They already have the Macan, which is considered a high-performance luxury crossover SUV, that rivals BMW’s X3, Audi’s Q5, and MB’s GLC line. They also have the VERY popular Cayenne, which is considered a high-performance mid-size luxury SUV, that rivals BMW’s X5, Audi’s Q8, and MB’s GLE line. Therefore, what other size could they be adding?

This is where it gets interesting. On top of Blume saying they’re adding more SUVs to their lineup, he also said that one of them would expand Porsche’s SUV position and tap into new sales opportunities. This sentence pushes the needle forward into confirming the rumored “K1” is going to happen. We don’t see them going smaller than the Macan because it is already small enough for those that want a nice CUV. Therefore, we are 90% sure Porsche will be announcing a 7 seater Porsche in the next couple of years.

7 Seater Porsche Specs?

Unfortunately, all of the information we have is what is above. However, we can assume it is going to be bigger the Cayenne, which is 67″ in height, 193.6″ in length, 78″ in width, and a 114″ wheelbase. Also, we can assume that the “K1” or “Landjet” will be electric, based on the CEO’s stance of “in 2025, half of all new Porsche sales are expected to come from the sale of electric vehicles”. We especially think this will be the case with the success of the Porsche Taycan since its introduction in 2019. Since the Taycan weighs more than 6,000 pounds, we think quite a bit of its success can be devoted to Section 179.

For price, we can go ahead and assume that it is going to be more expensive the Cayenne, which the base 2023 Cayenne starts at $72,200. Based on simple math, the base Cayenne is 20% more expensive ($14,700 price difference) than the base Macan. Therefore, we can assume the rumored new 7 seater Porsche will MSRP in the price range of $83,000 – $86,640.

7 Seater Porsche Conclusion

Once again, we would like to preface, that this is all rumored. But with the information above we also feel pretty confident about the assumptions made. When there is more information rolled out hinting about a 3rd row Porsche SUV, we will make sure to come back and refresh this article! Porsche has always been ahead of the curve and we think an electric 7 seater Porsche would be another wildly successful addition to the already successful Porsche SUV lineup. Stay tuned!

If you are interested in reading up on more Porsche CUV/SUV content, here is a comparison article for the Porsche Macan vs Cayenne.

Credit: Automotive News Europe

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These Are the Cheapest Porsche’s You Can Buy

November 9, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

The other day we were perusing the internet and came across some cheap Porsches. This intrigued us to dig more and see what Porsche’s could be bought for under $20,000.  Therefore, this is what we came up with. This article will cover the top 10 cheapest Porsches money can buy under $20,000 with mileage under 100,000 miles. These prices are based on cars.com, CarGurus, and other vehicle marketplace sites. The used car market value is slowly declining, but we feel at the time of writing this, used vehicle prices are still on the high side. So, we’ll come back and refresh this in a year. For reference, these are used vehicles that can be driven on the road, not pieces of scrap metal after an accident.

What is the Cheapest Porsche?

So, let’s get into it. Coming in at the #1 cheapest Porsches under 100,000 miles, we have the…

1. Porsche 924 (1977): $6,991

The Porsche 924 was first introduced in 1976 and continued to be produced until 1988. During its 12-year production, there were four main trims featured: 924 Turbo, 924 Carerra GT, 924 Carerra GTR, and the 942S. It featured a VW NA EA381, VW Turbo EA381, and a 2.5L engine with a 4-speed or 5-speed manual transmission. For the one listed above, going for $6,991, there are 55,217 miles, and is actually in decent shape given it being 40+ years old.

2. Porsche Boxster (1997-2004): $9,589 – $19,998

The Porsche Boxster was first introduced in 1996 and is still in production today. The first generation, or commonly referred to as the 986 Boxster, was produced from 1996 – 2004. The 986 Boxster featured three different engines: 2.5L M96, 2.7L M96, and a 3.2L M96 in the Boxster S models. The reason for such a wide range of price is predominantly due to mileage and model year. For example, the one going for $9,589 has 69,000 miles and is a 1999 model year. While the one listed for $19,998 has 52,560 miles and is a 2002 model year. Both are in similar good shape. It is worth noting that there are MANY of these for sale on the used market.

3. Porsche 944 (1983-1987): $10,000 – $17,900

The Porsche 944 was first released in 1982 and was produced until 1991. It featured three different trims: 944 base, 944 Turbo, and a 944 S. The Porsche 944 came with four different engine options depending on the trim: a 2.5L, a 2.5L Turbo, a 2.7L, and a 3.0L. The one listed for $10,000 is a 1984 model year with 69,513 miles and comes equipped with a NA 2.5L engine. While the one listed for $17,900 is a 1987 model year with 99,121 miles also equipped with a NA 2.5L engine. The latter seems to be in slightly better shape. If you are looking for a decent reliable old looking Porsche, the 944 is a great option.

4. Porsche Cayenne (2004-2008): $10,249 – $18,790

The Porsche Cayenne was first introduced in 2002 and is still in production today because of its increasing popularity. The first generation Cayenne, also referred to as the 955/957 Cayenne, was produced from 2002-2008. There were many trims offered on the 955/957 Cayenne: Base, S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, and diesel. It also came with plenty of engine options: a Vr6, multiple V8’s, twin-turbo V8, and a turbo diesel V6. The one listed for $10,249 is a base 2004 model year with 70,689 miles and comes equipped with a 3.2L V6 engine. While the one listed for $18,790 is an “S” 2004 model year with 73,948 miles equipped with a 4.5L V8 engine. Both are in great shape if you’re looking for an older Porsche SUV, the 955/957 Cayenne is a great option.

5. Porsche 928 S (1983): $10,750

The Porsche 928 was first introduced in 1978 and produced until 1995. It was meant to replace the infamous 911, but it didn’t have as much buying pressure as Porsche execs expected. In total, there were 61,000 928’s produced globally. Like many other Porsches, it featured many trims: base 928, 928 Competition, 928 S, 928 S4, 928 CS, 928 GT, and 928 GTS. It also came with many different engines: 4.5L, 4.7L, 5.0L, and a 5.4L. The 928 S that is listed for $10,750 is a 1983 model year with 89,988 miles and comes equipped with a manual 4.7L V8. Honestly, it isn’t in the best shape aesthetically, but could be a fun project at just above $10,000.

6. Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet/Convertible (1999): $13,750

The 911 is a staple vehicle for the Porsche franchise. It was first introduced in 1964 and is still in production today. The 1,000,000th 911 was produced in 2017, just to give a gauge of how popular the 911 is. The specific 911 Carrera listed above is a 996 generation (1999-2005) . It is in great shape for a vehicle that is 23 years old. It comes with a NA 3.4L flat-six engine that puts out 304hp with 93,285 miles. Although it is on the high side of mileage, the 996 911’s are nostalgic for us.

7. Porsche 924 S/Turbo (1987): $12,999 – $15,900

For the next three, we won’t repeat the history from above, so the 924 S’ and 924 Turbo listed are a step above from the base 924, which explains the 100% or more price increase. There are 2 924 S’ listed ($12,999 and $13,999). Both have the 2.5L engine that puts out 148hp with an average mileage of 50,863. Lastly, the 924 Turbo is in good shape and is listed for $15,900. It comes equipped with a Turbo VW EA831 that puts out 170 hp with a mileage of 65,875. Another very solid option for those looking for a fun old project Porsche.

8. Porsche Cayenne (2009-2012): $14,495 – $19,995

The Porsche Cayenne’s second generation, or commonly referred to as the 958 Cayenne, was produced from 2009 – 2016. In the pricing range above, there are 18 different Cayenne’s to choose from. So, there are many options to choose from for a Porsche SUV that is only a decade and some change old. The 958 Cayenne featured many different trims: base, S, Hybrid, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, Diesel, and S Diesel. The cheapest 958 Cayenne ($14,495) is a base 2009 Cayenne with 98,239 miles and comes with a 3.6L V6 engine. The most expensive 958 Cayenne ($19,995) is a 2011 Cayenne S with 93,250 miles and comes with a 4.8L V8 engine.

9. Porsche Boxster (2005-2011): $15,995 – $19,999

The second generation, or commonly referred to as the 987, Boxster was first introduced in 2005 and was produced until 2012. There were two different versions of the 987: 987.1 (2005-2008) & 987.2 (2009-2012). Like the 958 Cayenne, there are many different choices to choose from, 22 to be exact. The cheapest Porsche 987 Boxster ($14,795) is a 2005 Boxster S with 89,645 miles and comes with a 3.2L flat-six engine. The most expensive 987 Boxster ($19,999) is surprisingly a 2005 Base Boxster with 61,029 miles and comes with a 2.7L flat-six engine.

10. Porsche Cayman (2007-2008): $17,991 – $19,999

Lastly, the most expensive Porsche under $20,000 is a variety of 987 Cayman’s. The Cayman was first introduced in 2005 and is still in production today. The 987, or first generation, ran from 2005-2012. There are many different trims that are offered: base, T, S, GTS 4.0, GT4, and more. There are 4 used Cayman’s within the price range above, but we will only be covering the cheapest and most expensive. The cheapest Porsche 987 Cayman ($17,991) is a 2008 Base Cayman with 94,222 miles and comes with a 2.7L flat-six engine. The most expensive 987 Cayman ($19,999) is also a 2008 Base Cayman with 91,060 miles and comes with a 2.7L flat-six engine.

Cheapest Porsche Conclusion

Needless to say, there are still a lot of options out there on the used market for cheaper Porsche’s under $20,000. In fact on cars.com, there were a total of 205 Porsche’s under $20,000 and under 100,000 miles. We would likely favor the older 924’s, 928’s, or 944’s just because those are more unique. However, since some of them are going on 4+ decades old, they would likely be projects. We hope this article provided some insight into what kinds of Porsche’s are out there on the used market under $20,000. To summarize, the cheapest Porsche is a 1977 924 and the “most expensive” used Porsche (under $20,000) is a 2008 Porsche Cayman. We’ll be the first to tell you that you won’t be finding a new 2022 or 2023 under $20,000. The “cheapest” 2023 Porsche model is 3x $20,000, the 718 Porsche Cayman starts at $63,400.

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