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Porsche Macan vs Cayenne

March 15, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

The Cayenne is the original Porsche mid-size SUV, with its production dating back to 2002. As demand for mid-size SUV’s grew, Porsche expanded their line in 2014 with the Macan. The Macan was originally named the “Cajun” which stood for Cayenne Junior. Both Porsche’s are still in production today, with the Cayenne currently in its third generation, while the Macan is still in its first.

The Cayenne currently has about 10 different models, ranging from the base model, to the Platinum, S, Turbo, Turbo S, Turbo GTS, and so on. Additionally, there are also a number of Hybrid electric models as well. And to make things more confusing, it is also produced in a “Coupe” version which is slightly smaller and more sleek than the SUV versions. The Macan on the other hand is a bit more simplistic with 4 four models: base, T, S, and GTS.

With multiple generations and dozens of different models, which is better? The Porsche Macan or the Cayenne? This guide will discuss the difference between the Macan and Cayenne, pricing, engine options, performance, reliability, and everything in between.

Porsche Cayenne vs Macan

Porsche Macan vs Cayenne – What’s the Difference?

Before we jump into more details, we want to lay the landscape on the primary differences between the Cayenne and Macan. With all the different models, generations, and engine options things can get a little confusing. So let’s discuss the high-level differences between the two.

Size

The Macan is a slightly smaller and more affordable version of the Cayenne. In comparable terms, it is similar to an X5 vs X3 for BMW’s. The Macan was designed to be a bit sportier than the Cayenne, which was intended to be more of a luxury offering.

Both vehicles have the same number of seats, so the sizing difference is most noticeable in legroom, headspace, and trunk space. The back seats in the Macan are going to offer slightly less room for big and tall adults, as well as less head clearance since the Macan is more sleek and compact. However, for young children and teenagers, space shouldn’t be a huge issue. The Macan does have slightly less trunk space but it’s also not a huge difference.

Until 2018 it was a trade-off between space and looks. The Cayenne has more space but the Macan has a more sleek and sporty appeal. However, for the 3rd Gen Cayenne’s, Porsche released a Coupe version. The Cayenne Coupe’s are just barely bigger than the Macan while also offering a lot more in the way of performance.

If you have a big family a need the space, the Cayenne is the way to go. If you want a sportier, more sleek looking SUV and space isn’t the issue then the Macan (or a Cayenne Coupe) is a good option.

Cayenne vs Macan Performance

Despite the Cayenne being a larger and more luxurious vehicle, it also offers more performance than the Macan. Current base model Macan’s use a turbocharged 2.0L 4-cylinder engine whereas the Cayenne base models uses a 3.0L turbo 6-cylinder. The top model Macan Turbo uses a 3.6L twin-turbo 6-cylinder, whereas the top model Cayenne Turbo GTS has a 4.0L twin-turbo 8-cylinder that produces nearly 650hp.

Additionally, the 0-60mph time on the Macan GTS are 4.3 seconds. This is actually in line with the Cayenne GTS which clocks 4.5 seconds for the SUV version, and 4.2 seconds with the Coupe version. The reason the Macan keeps up is because it is about 500lbs lighter. However, the difference is that the Macan maxes out at 4.3 seconds whereas the Cayenne Turbo GT can log a 3.1 second 0-60mph. The caveat being the Turbo GT is about $100,000 more expensive than the Macan GTS.

Overall, all new Cayenne models have bigger engines and more horsepower than their equivalent Macan models. The one caveat is that a Macan will offer better performance than a first gen Cayenne unless you get the Turbo or Turbo S version. All Macan models are turbocharged which makes them more tunable and power-capable compared to the earlier, naturally-aspirated Cayennes.

Price

Price point is probably the biggest difference between the two. For the third-generation 9YA, the Cayenne now comes in a Coupe format. This coupe style is a bit more sleek and sporty, similar to the Macan. So, if you want the sharper and sportier looking Porsche, you now have two options with the Cayenne Coupe and Macan. However, which is the best for you is going to be dependent on budget as the Cayenne’s are a good bit more expensive.

A Macan starts around $55,000 for a base model, and $80,000 for its most expensive model, the GTS. A Cayenne base model starts around $69,000 and ranges upwards of $180,000.

Overall: the Macan is a smaller, sportier but less powerful, more affordable version of the Cayenne.

Macan and Cayenne Generations

Despite the Macan being more affordable, you can find a Cayenne for a lower price than a Macan. This is because the Cayenne has been around for 20 years and the Macan has only been around for 8. Therefore, when choosing between the two, the big question is do you get an older Cayenne, or a newer Macan at the same price point?

Understanding the different generations is helpful in determining what the best fit for you is.

Cayenne Generations:

  • 1st Generation 955/957 Cayenne
    • Base, S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, and Diesel
  • 2nd Generation 958 Cayenne
    • Base, S, S Hybrid, S E-Hybrid, Turbo, Turbo S, Diesel, S Diesel
  • 3rd Generation 9YA Cayenne
    • Base, E-Hybrid, S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, Turbo S E-Hybrid, Turbo GT
    • Available in both SUV and Coupe versions, various special editions like the Platinum

Macan Generations

  • 1st Generation 95B Macan
    • Base, S, T, GTS, Turbo, GTS
    • Turbo model was discontinued in 2021 and replaced by the GTS as the new top model

Between all of the generations and various models, there are tons of options to choose from with Cayenne’s. Which makes it a bit difficult to specifically compare the Cayenne to the Macan. However, we’re going to do our best to differentiate your options by price point.

Macan vs Cayenne Options by Price

Cayenne’s are more expensive brand new. However, a 2002 Cayenne will be a lot cheaper than any Macan available. We’re going to list out what your options are when it comes to price point. These are more general price points. You can get a first gen Cayenne for $20,000, but you aren’t getting a first gen Turbo S for $20,000 so keep that in mind.

$20,000 and Under Budget

Unfortunately, the entry level price any Porsche isn’t necessarily the most affordable. $20,000 isn’t going to give you a whole lot of options for a Cayenne (and zero options for a Macan). Here are your options at this price point:

  • 1st Gen 955 Cayenne
    • Base models in the $10k-$15k price point (usually ~100k miles)
    • S models in $15k-$20k price point (usually ~100k miles)
    • Might get lucky and get a GTS for ~$20k

Unfortunately, out of 157 Cayenne’s within 500 miles of me, there are only 8 that fall under the $20k price point. Most are base and S models from 2006-2009 that have 100k or more miles. If I expand my search nationwide, you can find some sub $10k Cayenne’s but they are all 2004-2006 models with 200k+ miles on them which will be a money pit.

Ultimately, at the $20k budget you will be looking at an old, high mileage Cayenne. Not the worst thing, but keep in mind repairs and maintenance on Porsche’s are expensive and anything over the 100k and 15 year age mark is when a lot of common repairs start popping up.

$35,000 and Under Budget

$30k is about the entry price for a Macan. A few can be found in the $25k-$30k price point but expect 100,000+ miles on them.

  • 1st Gen 955 Cayenne
    • Just about any first gen model at this price point (Turbo and Turbo S models will be high mileage)
  • 2nd Gen 958 Cayenne
    • Base, S, and Diesel models with reasonable mileage
    • GTS and Turbo models with 100k+ miles
  • 95B Macan
    • Mostly 2014-2016 Base models
    • Base models can be found with 40,000-70,000 miles on them at this price
    • A few Macan S models available but all will have 70,000+ miles

$60,000 and Under Budget

Jumping from $35k to $60k is a big jump. There are a lot of options in between like newer lower mileage cars, or higher trim’s and so on. However, $60k is about the price point where you can get a new Macan, but not a new Cayenne.

  • New 95B Macan
    • New Macan’s start at $54k. So you could theoretically get a new one for under $60k, albeit without really any options.
  • Used 95B Macan
    • 1-2yr old low mileage base models
    • 2-4yr old low mileage S and GTS models
    • Turbo models with slightly higher mileage (60k+)
  • 1st Gen 955 Cayenne
    • Just about anything you want
  • 2nd Gen 958 Cayenne
    • Just about anything you want
    • Newest 958’s in highest trims like Turbo/Turbo S will have more miles on them
  • 3rg Gen 9YA Cayenne
    • Base models with mileage ranging from 30k-100k

Getting a 3rd gen Cayenne in the S trim or higher is going to run you beyond the $60k price point. However, at this price point you have tons of options both in the Cayenne and Macan markets. It mostly comes down to whether you want an almost new Macan, or a slightly older but higher trim Cayenne.

$80,000 Budget and Beyond

The last budget we’ll discuss here is the $80k price point, and from there we are calling it “beyond”. Considering a new Turbo GT starts at $180k, there are a lot of options in between $80k and the top of the market. However, if you are shooting beyond the $80k mark you’re probably looking for a Cayenne only considering you can get a new Macan at any trim level in this price point.

The Macan GTS starts brand new at $79,900. So you probably aren’t getting a well-optioned new GTS for $80k. But if you look at 1yr old, almost new options you can get whatever you want.

At this price point it’s either get a new Macan S with a good amount of options, get a 1yr old Macan GTS, or get a new base model Cayenne. Or you could obviously look at getting a gently used 9YA Cayenne S, or any 958 Cayenne you want. Unfortunately if you want a 9YA in a trim higher than the S you’re going to need to up the budget.

Macan vs Cayenne Reliability

Reliability between the Cayenne and Macan is tough to judge since there are so many different generations, and each generation uses like six different engines. Fortunately, we’ve done our research and have already written reliability and problems guides for the Macan and the first two generations of the Cayenne.

Summarizing the below two sections, the Macan’s get an above average grade for reliability. Just be careful once the vehicle gets over the 100k mile point as maintenance history is crucial. The first two generations of Cayenne’s get average reliability ratings. First gens will be less reliable and more costly to own due to age. Second gens are a toss up, some will be more reliable since they are newer, but they also log more common problems than the first gens. Third gen Cayenne’s appear to get an above average rating so far.

Macan’s are more reliable than 955, 957, and 958 Cayenne’s. The 9YA Cayenne and Macan’s are about equivalent in terms of reliability. Both can surpass the 150,000 mile mark, but proper maintenance and care is the biggest factor.

Macan Reliability

The Macan’s have generally been problem free since their inception. The biggest issues are with the PDK transmission. Outside of the PDK, most problems it has experienced are general wear and tear items that need to be replaced eventually. However, the PDK issue is somewhat overhyped and not as common of a problem as it appears to be.

The Macan did introduce 2 new engines (2.9L twin-turbo and 3.0L singe turbo) that haven’t been on the road long enough to determine common problem areas. Fortunately, there haven’t been any major issues reported so far.

The one caveat to Macan reliability is that the diesel engines are a bit less reliable than the gas engines. Fueling and emissions components tend to be problematic in these cars, although newer models have addressed and fixed a number of these issues.

Overall, 150,000 to 200,000 miles out of a Macan is possible, but maintenance is key.

Porsche Macan Common Problems Guide

Cayenne Reliability

Age of the engine is a bigger factor for the Cayenne. With some of these cars pushing 20+ years old, you should expect a decent amount of maintenance and repairs out of first gen Cayenne’s, especially if they are high mileage.

Second gen 958 Cayenne’s actually get a worse reputation for reliability than the first gens. They have a few additional common problems that give them a mediocre rap. However, newer 958’s seem to hold up well and generally easier to maintain since they are newer. The first few years of 958’s (2010-2012) will be more expensive to maintain than later model years.

The third gen 9YA’s have so far received an above average rating for reliability. They will experience the same PDK issues as the Macan but outside of this there aren’t a ton of major common problems to be aware of.

Porsche Cayenne 955/957/958 Problems Guide

Cayenne vs Macan Summary

Hopefully this guide was helpful. There is a lot to decipher between the two Porsche’s considering the Cayenne has been around for so long. The Macan was introduced to be a more budget-friendly and slightly smaller version of the Cayenne. People’s preference for the sleeker and sportier look of the Macan led Porsche to create a Coupe version of the Cayenne for folks who want maximum performance in a similar small and sporty package like the Macan.

The Cayenne is more expensive and generally offers better performance. However, a GTS Macan is about $30k less than a Cayenne GTS and clocks the same 0-60mph times despite 20hp less as it weighs about 500lbs less. However, the GTS is the fastest Macan you can get whereas there are higher trim options on the Cayenne that offer up to about 650hp and a 3.1 second 0-60. On the contrary, a base model Macan only generates 261hp whereas a base Cayenne generates 335hp.

When talking new, the biggest difference between the two is price point. The Cayenne is significantly more expensive but is bigger, more spacious, and offers a few more luxury features compared to the more compact Macan. When buying used, there are a lot of different options at every price point. But, the decision usually comes down to whether you want a newer, lower trim Macan or a slightly older higher trim Cayenne.

Ultimately, both the Cayenne and Macan are great cars. At the end of the day which is better really depends on your price point and whether you are looking for space, luxury, and performance or whether you want something more affordable and sporty at the sacrifice of performance.

Filed Under: Cayenne, Macan

The 5 Most Common Porsche Macan Engine Problems

January 8, 2022 by porsche Leave a Comment

The Porsche Macan was released in 2014 under the 95B chassis code. It was originally named the Cajun, which represented “Cayenne Junior”. The Macan is a more compact and less expensive version of the Cayenne and shares the same chassis with Audi’s Q5. While the Macan received a facelift in 2021, it is still in its “first generation” with plans of a second generation EV launch in 2023.

Six different engines have been fitted to the Macan. The base models have a 2.0L turbocharged inline-4. Diesel variants included a 3.0L V6 turbo-diesel. Early Macan S and Macan GTS trims utilized a 3.0L V6 twin-turbo. Lastly, the Macan Turbo featured a 3.6L twin-turbo engine until 2020. In 2019 a single-turbo 3.0L V6 was introduced for the Macan S models. Lastly, in 2020 the GTS and Turbo models received a new 2.9L twin-turbo, which is also available for facelifted 2021 and newer Macan S models.

Despite the Porsche Macan receiving above average remarks for reliability there are a number of common problems that affect its engines. Since there are multiple engines in the Macan not all of these problems are applicable to each one. We will do our best to denote which problem is applicable to which Macan engine. Common Macan engine problems are less known for the single turbo 3.0L V6 and the twin-turbo 2.9L V6 engines since they are newer.

Porsche Macan Engine Problems

Porsche Macan Engine Problems

  • PDK Transmission Problems
  • Water Pump Failure
  • Thermostat Housing Leaks
  • Carbon Buildup
  • High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure

If you are considering a Porsche Macan, don’t let these engine problems turn you away. The Macan is generally considered very reliable and the majority of these issues, outside of carbon buildup and PDK issues, are isolated. Additionally, water pump, thermostat housings, and HPFP’s are common repair items that fail over time due to age and poor maintenance.

1. Macan PDK Transmission Problems

All Macan’s are fitted with Porsche’s 7-speed PDK transmission. PDK stands for Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe which is essentially a fancy German term for dual-clutch transmission. The PDK transmission has two separate sections: a rear section that is considered manual, and the front section that houses the dual clutch. The dual clutch section is electronically and hydraulically controlled vs. the manual rear section, and therefore the majority of problems come from the front section.

The two most common failure points with the PDK transmission are the mechatronic unit, or valve body, and the transmission temperature sensor.

The mechatronic unit or valve body is responsible for changing gears. It is a complex part that includes hydraulic valves, various electronic components, and sensors. When the mechatronic unit fails you will experience rough shifting and difficulty in changing gears.

The second common failure point is the transmission temp sensor. This sensor monitors the temperature of the transmission as lots of heat and high temps can damage internal components. A bad temp sensor will through a check engine light and can cause the engine to enter limp mode in addition to causing rough shifting.

Symptoms of a Bad PDK Transmission

  • Rough shifting
  • Difficulty changing gears
  • Grinding during shifts
  • Limp mode
  • Gear slipping

PDK Replacement Options

A PDK transmission is actually relatively easy to take apart and fix. However, Porsche’s policy is to replace the PDK transmission instead of repair it. Unfortunately, a new PDK transmission from the dealer is going to run you $12k-$15k. Fortunately, the PDK is actually serviceable, for whatever reason Porsche just prefers to replace them.

If you have a bad temp sensor that is a cheap and easy fix. However, if you have a valve body (mechatronic) issue then things get slightly more complicated. If you take it to the Porsche dealership you will be told your only option is to replace the whole trans. Instead we recommend finding an independent Porsche specialist and have them replace the valve body only. New units cost around $1.5k-$2k, refurbished units can be found for around $800, or you can find a used one for $500 or less.

Have an independent repair shop swap the valve body. It will still cost you a few thousand dollars but it beats the five figures for a new transmission. It’s actually a relatively easy DIY as well if you have ample mechanic skills.

2. Porsche Macan Water Pump Failure

Most common on the 2.0L EA888 and 3.0L turbo engines and older Macan’s is water pump failure. Water pumps are responsible for pushing engine coolant throughout the engine and radiator to keep engine temperatures low. Water pumps are a normal wear and tear item and it is generally not common to see them fail prior to 80,000 miles. However, older vehicles that are low mileage can experience failure before this point as well.

Fortunately, most Porsche water pumps in the Macan are mechanically controlled instead of electronically. This makes them cheaper and easier to replace. Failure is most commonly attributed to the internal components of the water pump which wear down over time due to high pressures within the cooling system.

While this isn’t common on low mileage engines, the Porsche Macan has had some issues with coolant pipe failures in its earlier years. However, these were remedied and tend not to be a problem anymore.

Water Pump Failure Symptoms

  • Engine overheating
  • Whining noise coming from the water pump
  • Coolant leaks from water pump
  • Steam coming from engine/radiator

Water pump replacement is as simple as buying a new $100-$150 water pump and having it installed. If you do experience water pump failure do not drive your car. A bad water pump can lead to engine overheating and excess heat can cause catastrophic damage to internal engine components.

3. Macan Thermostat Housing Leaks

A coolant thermostat  is responsible for controlling how much coolant is circulated back into the engine and how much is routed to the radiator prior to being recirculated. It helps keep the coolant within a specific temperature range. The thermostat sits within a housing that is made of plastic.

Thermostat housing leaks are most common on the 2.0L Ea888 engines. A poor design causes them to wear down a fail prematurely which causes coolant to leak out of the housing. Thermostat housing failure tends to occur around the 60,000 mile mark on Macan’s.

Fortunately, the part is only about $200 and can be replaced relatively easily. If you are replacing the housing it is also recommended to replace the thermostat at the same time. Additionally, replacing the water pump in conjunction with it is not uncommon.

Macan Thermostat Housing Leak Symptoms

  • Coolant leaking from housing
  • Engine overheating
  • Low coolant light warnings
  • Coolant leaking through weep hole

4. Porsche Macan Carbon Buildup

All Macan engines are direct injected instead of port injected. Port injection sprays fuel into the intake manifold where it is then sent into the engine cylinders. Direct injection uses extremely high pressure fuel injectors. Each cylinder has its own fuel injector which sprays the fuel directly into the combustion chamber.

Direct injected engines usually have more fueling related problems than port injected engines. This is because they require a high pressure fuel pump and fuel injectors. HPFP’s as well discuss next fail due to the high pressure and stress they are under. Additionally, fuel injectors are also very stressed parts and can easily become clogged or lose pressure and leak.

However, the “problem” that all direct injected vehicles face is carbon buildup. When fuel is injected into the intake ports it has a constant flow of air to keep the intake manifold clean of any fuel debris. However, when the fuel is injected directly into the engine it can coat the cylinder walls and intake ports with carbon deposits which is a buildup of insufficient fuel burning.

Symptoms of Carbon Buildup

  • Rough idling
  • Engine hesitation
  • Misfires
  • Slight power loss

Carbon buildup occurs over time rather than instantaneously. Therefore it can sometimes become hard to diagnose as the power loss experienced might not be noticeable. You usually won’t experience misfires or poor idling until the buildup becomes very excessive. This likely won’t occur until well beyond the 100,000 mile mark.

Therefore it is smart to have your engine “walnut blasted” every 80,000-100,000 miles to clear out the carbon buildup and restore engine performance. Walnut blasting costs about $500 and uses a shop vac to blow walnut shells through the intake ports to clear out all of the built up gunk.

5. Macan Diesel High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure

The Macan Diesel is prone to a number of fueling related failures such as HPFP and injector failure. As mentioned previously, direct injection engines use HPFPs to deliver highly pressurized fuel to the fuel injectors. Most diesel engines use a low pressure fuel pump (LPFP) to deliver fuel from the fuel tank to the HPFP. The HPFP then pressurizes it and sends it to the injectors.

Since the HPFP operates under very high pressures it is constantly under a lot of stress. This stress can wear down internal components of the pump and ultimately cause it to fail. This will result in inadequate levels of fuel being delivered to the cylinders and result in decreased performance, misfires, limp mode, etc. Additionally, the Macan Diesels also frequently experience failed fuel injectors.

Diesel fuel is less refined that traditional gasoline which means it is “dirtier” and more susceptible to picking up contaminants like water and dirt. This can cause dirty diesel fuel which wreaks havoc on fuel pumps and injectors. To prevent this the best thing to do is to only fill-up from good gas stations that sell a lot of diesel fuel. Diesel that sits in underground gas station holding tanks for too long can cause a lot of engine problems.

Macan Diesel HPFP and Injector Failure Symptoms

  • Low fuel pressure
  • Misfires
  • Rough idling
  • Lack of performance
  • Stuttering or engine shutting off while idling
  • Hesitant acceleration
  • Engine codes for running too lean

Porsche Macan Reliability

Overall, the Macan offers above average reliability. All of the gasoline engines are well built and generally problem free. The majority of the problems the Macan experiences are general wear and tear items like water pumps, thermostat housings, and carbon buildup. None of these issues are material enough to cause any concern to a potential buyer.

The most problematic item across all of the engines is the PDK transmission. However, this problem isn’t super common. Instead it is a bit more overhyped online simply due to the fact that replacing a PDK transmission is so expensive, and is what Porsche recommends. Opting for a non-dealer repair can make this a lot more affordable. But overall, a bad PDK transmission isn’t that common or concerning.

150,000-200,000 miles isn’t unrealistic for a Macan. However, proper and regular maintenance is the most important thing.

As mentioned above, the 2.9L twin-turbo engine and the single turbo 3.0L V6 are newer Macan engines and therefore haven’t been on the road long enough for us to call any problems “common”. But overall, they seem very reliable so far.

Macan Diesel Reliability

The Macan Diesel is slightly less reliable than the gasoline engines. Newer models tend to be more reliable as some of the problem areas have been fixed. Overall, these engines have very differing opinions with cases of them both being very reliable or very unreliable.

Diesel versions of the Macan are prone to experience failure of the HPFP, fuel injectors, diesel particulate filters, heater core, and glow plugs.

Filed Under: Macan

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